Guest Post by Ian Beck: If You’re Not Pissed Off You’re Not Paying Attention

So the youth of Worthing are restless. The UK creeps towards a police state, with public order measures concocted to combat terrorism and riot deployed to stop the yeomen of Worthing congregating after dark. Or at least an order under Section 30 of the Anti-social Behaviour Act 2003, providing for “dispersal of groups and removal of persons under 16 to their place of residence.” I’ve been to Worthing many times, generally just passing through on the A27. It’s no hotbed of sedition. I’ve always thought of it an elephants’ graveyard, where the well-heeled bourgeois of conservative Sussex buy expensive coastal retirement bungalows to quietly await the inevitable. Of course this is a caricature, and unfair. I’ve also heard, anecdotally, of a small but seething youth counter-culture down there; if you know the right people, you can have a surprisingly good time. After all it’s not far from Brighton, most people there have money. Apparently Worthing’s not as dull as it looks.

I heard about the Worthing Freedom Campaign on Twitter from @SchNews, the Twitter account of an organisation known to have a nifty line in radical political satire, and to be supportive of direct action against the kind of criminality and immorality that the rightwing and mainstream media don’t tend to highlight. Their by-line: “If you’re not pissed off you’re not paying attention.” Well, I too am disturbed, not to mention angry, at the way things are going in this country. Those responsible for the current, worsening, financial and economic crisis have not been held to account. They appear to continue as if nothing has changed, for they are insulated from the consequences of their mistakes, indeed these same mistakes would seem to result, for them, in ever larger bonuses and other rewards. Austerity is clearly failing, the coalition’s mandate is uncertain. A lot of other bad stuff is going on here and in the wider world that needs to be challenged. There’s a big international crisis, on several fronts (in case you weren’t paying attention.) Though I’m no spring chicken these days, have a job to hold down, and live far from Sussex, I would hope to make common cause with a lot of what SchNews do.

Surely to win any challenge from a position of material weakness you must win the argument first? You must choose your weapons carefully. I wasn’t that impressed with the Worthing Freedom Campaign’s blog, with its links to other news sheets sporting brutish satire. Not terribly edgy, not terribly original, not terribly funny, and not awfully constructive. Perhaps I shouldn’t be so harsh? The authors of Pork-Bolter could well be kids; at least they take an interest, exercise creativity and are asking questions. But in my experience the police are far more open to negotiation and reason when treated like the human beings they in fact are. A respectful and constructive attitude tends to be reciprocated, though you may take issue with the laws the police are enforcing, or whether their methods are always proportionate and lawful. But a report from the Brighton Evening Argus – it has to be said a paper not noted for political neutrality or detailed factual accuracy – linked to by @SchNews caught my eye, the reported use of the Nazi swastika by this Worthing Freedom Campaign.

At this point I should confess that I think about the Nazis a lot. More than most people do, and possibly more than is healthy. But that’s a function of my day job as a history teacher, and because a lot of dark, evil and perverted stuff happened during the brief but spectacular period the Nazis inhabit. So what sort of “Freedom Campaign” deploys the swastika? To me, that’s an interesting question. Hitler’s concept of “freedom” was somewhat different to that understood by @SchNews, and, one would hope, the Worthing Freedom Campaign. What Hitler meant by freedom was, in the first instance, the freedom of ethnic Germans and other “Nordics” (if they were up for it, though in the end choice would not apply) to join the same big or “Greater” Germany, regardless of the wishes of other peoples who happened to dwell thereabouts. To achieve this collective “freedom” Hitler’s people would need an invincible war machine that would ultimately enslave or exterminate their enemies and rivals. Individual Germans wouldn’t have any choice about participating in this “freedom” project either. Hitler’s idea of freedom was not freedom at all.

A side issue, then, to the main event, but an important one to this interested party. @SchNews did not at first respond to my questions. Snubbed and disappointed, I provoked them to respond. I’m new to Twitter. Once their “hive mind” had worked out what on earth I was on about, they said the story wasn’t true, they wrongly blamed the Argus. @SchNews did then concede that the swastika had been used on a leaflet which was “not the cleverest we’ve seen” but in the end no big deal. The image itself is no longer available but reportedly the swastika had been used in juxtaposition with a Sussex Police badge, so as to suggest, ironically or not, that Sussex Police are Nazis. Soon @Sussex_Police were in touch too. They said that this Nazi emblem had appeared on the Worthing Freedom Campaign’s website too, but had been removed. The message left by Sussex Police to complain had been deleted. The police account made the glib but fair point that censorship was hardly in the spirit of freedom too.

Scrapper Duncan has blogged about all this already, and very well. My point with @SchNews was that this use of the swastika was at best inflammatory and hysterical, hardly likely to help the credibility of the campaign. At worst, it’s lot more disturbing than that. Their defence was that the use of the swastika was by a couple of silly individuals not representative of  the campaign, and was a bit of an irrelevance. Worthing’s Freedom Campaign seemed to have thought better of it, which must be a good thing? Just when I thought I was making some progress with @SchNews, edging them towards a condemnation of this sort of imagery, they made the questionable assertion that the meanings of these symbols change over time. The hive was perhaps not in harmony. My understanding of the symbols of Nazism is no longer current, then. It doesn’t really matter. These days the Nazis aren’t so bad.

Here’s how they responded to Scrapper Duncan’s post (unfortunately Jo Makepeace’s remains incomplete, and seems set to remain so. Two further comments in response by Scrapper Duncan and by me are also reproduced):

Jo Makepeace 11 June 2012 at 12:45 pm

Wow – our first Twitter row! #welcome to the 21stCentury.

Thanks for the fulsome praise in the first few paragraphs by the way!

Our remit is definitely to defend grass-roots groups trying to resist authority, although it seems unfair to charge us with ‘fundamentalism’ on this basis. We stated that we didn’t think it was the cleverest of leaflets, although no doubt we’ve been guilty of equally crass behaviour in the past in pursuit of some splendidly satirical objective or other.

Ian’s point struck us as nitpicking – having a go at a small group trying their best to stand up to over-weening police power by pointing out an exaggerated claim in a single leaflet.

Ian seemed to be suggesting that an ‘even-handed’ approach be taken between the Worthing Freedom Campaign and Sussex Police, which given the power imbalance between them is laughable. The fact that the cops have the power to sweep you off the streets and incarcerate you (with increasingly little redress) is precisely why they shouldn’t be welcomed into the rhizomatic world of twitter and blogging as equals. Certainly they shouldn’t be shedding crocodile tears about hurt feelings!

There may have been a point in the past when Naziism wasn’t trivialised but that’s long ago now. I don’t think that the Worthing Freedom Campaign are responsible for Allo, Allo, the Download spoofs etc etc. The meanings of symbols do change and the power of the Swastika emblem to shock has been eroded over time.

Cultural saturation with the idea that Naziism represented some black hole sui generis apex of evil that effectively stands outside history has ironically aided that erosion. Without an…

Scrapper Duncan 11 June 2012 at 2:07 pm

Thanks for your comment. You seem to have been interrupted by the character limit? Imposed to stop time wasters, which are definitely not one. Still, same rule for everyone! If you finish elsewhere, I’ll publish your pingback.

@ian_bec 11 June 2012 at 3:29 pm

Thank you Duncan for this post and your support in this matter. My interest here was purely to query and challenge the use of the swastika by no doubt a small minority of these protesters in Worthing. I was not attempting to question or pass judgement on the basis of the protest, nor the tactics of Sussex police. From the point of view of Schnews this is not an important issue and I was “nitpicking.” This would explain why my first two questions to Schnews about this were ignored. Neither is the association of protesters – who no doubt would regard themselves as on the left and supporters of liberty -the narrative Schnews would want to propagate.

The fact that the swastika was deployed on a single leaflet only, and quickly removed from the website of these protesters, indicates that they thought better of it. Good. Though there’s enough in Jo Makepeace’s response here to take issue with, I’d rather see the whole comment before responding item by item. It was just getting interesting, though I’m not sure the Latin (or Greek?) adds to its clarity. So I’ll leave it a few hours in the hope that the full comment is published.

If you want to debate Nazism, its implications, and the real meaning of their symbols I’m happy to do that, Jo Makepeace. If you don’t, then just say, clearly and unequivocally, that the deployment of the swastika in this context was wrong.

Ian Beck

More than a few hours later, I’ll continue. Jo Makepeace here concedes that this use of the swastika was “crass“, but then in mitigation implies that this is the sort of oversight anybody (radical left activists?) “in pursuit of some splendidly satirical objective or other” could make. It remains a bit of a joke. I was “nit-picking” and “having a go at a small group” trying to stand up against “over-weening police powers“. I’m not disputing that incidents where the police obtain restrictive public order powers, on what appear slender justifications, need to be questioned or challenged. The authoritarian trends initiated by the New Labour government continue, as society becomes more unequal our privacy and our rights to protest are increasingly curtailed. This is not in dispute. But by saying this use of Nazi symbolism was “an exaggerated claim” Jo Makepeace also implies that the police in Sussex are not so very far from Nazism, that the problem is one of emphasis. You do not condemn the use of this imagery, Jo. You think the right of kids to assemble as they please in Worthing is the more important issue. Ultimately, you do not get it.

Jo Makepeace may believe that by discussing issues with the police I’m siding with them. I’m accused of failing to acknowledge the “power imbalance” between police and protesters by advocating an “even-handed approach.” Why not discuss the swastika in an even-handed way? I do not buy the implication that because I’m criticising the protesters I’m taking sides with the cops, and by extension buying into “their” value system by being shocked at the swastika. You assert that the “power of the swastika to shock has been eroded over time.” I’m not sure that’s true, and if it is, it needs to be challenged. You also contend that I shouldn’t be communicating with the police on social media “as equals” even in serious discussion, however constructively. A superficial grasp of the historiography leads you to argue that because ‘great minds’ have ‘discovered’ that Nazism does not stand “outside history” (whatever that means), and because of ‘Allo, ‘Allo and the “Download spoofs” (sic), Nazism is now “trivialised” and has been for some time. You say that ultimately the Nazis were a pretty normal sort of evil, nothing unique (which is how I understood your “sui generis apex of evil“). Summary: I don’t hate the police enough, and I hate the Nazis too much.

Well, for my part I was just saying people should treat each other with respect. It’s an essential component of resolving any dispute without force. Further, that this trivialisation of Nazism is problematic, and in this case counter-productive for your protest, and your credibility. It’s ridiculous, wrong and offensive to excuse the use of the swastika in this way. I would say that if you had paid any attention to the Nazis, Jo Makepeace, you would be a good deal more “pissed off” with them. For a “hive” of radicals @SchNews is really nowhere near angry at the Nazis enough. I think you should get your ideas in order. There’s a lot more to the symbolism of the swastika than the abuse of authority. To throw that symbol around is to cheapen it further, and to cheapen yourself.

In a very clumsy way, I suppose you are accusing the police of fascism. If the Worthing Freedom Campaign had chosen a symbol of fascism to associate with Sussex Police I wouldn’t have agreed, but also wouldn’t have bothered to query it with @SchNews. The symbols of “fascism” do not quite resonate like the swastika. Meanwhile fascism is notoriously difficult to define, partly because it doesn’t, in the end, make a lot of sense nor stand up to very much scrutiny. We should perhaps pay heed to Mussolini, who coined the term. He defined fascism as “state power plus corporate power”, a marriage of capitalist and state interests in which the concerns or ambitions or rights of individuals had no intrinsic value. Into the mix also: a bellicose, imperialist nationalism and obsessive militarism, a fondness for uniforms, command hierarchies, discipline, machismo, aggression, hardness, strength, self-sacrifice, traditionalism, and obviously violence.

Perhaps this is a persuasive definition? If you consider the way the USA conducts its foreign policy, or the way the London Olympics is being organised, you could soon be peppering your after-dinner conversation with “fascism”, and sounding quite authoritative. There’s always the narrative of the threat to civilisation, too, to justify the restriction or suspension of civil liberties. For Mussolini and Hitler the primary threat was communism. The Bolsheviks and their enemies had indeed brought catastrophic upheaval and millions of unearned deaths to a society already strained to crisis by the First World War in the wake of the Russian Revolutions of 1917. Communism was and is an international conspiracy against the capitalist order. What little was known about events within Russia in the early 1920s made Revolution a frightening prospect to those with wealth or status or values to lose. In our time the primary recent threat has been Islamic terrorism. But there are always others: organised crime, the internet, mass immigration, the collapse of the banking system and so on. These are all in some ways threatening. The fascist way is to exaggerate the gravity and to lie about the nature of the threat, then ignore human values in pursuit of a forceful and total victory.

Scrapper Duncan blogged some bad photographs I took a few weeks ago. The Olympic Torch relay passed directly outside my home. At 6.30 am there was no ignoring it. It was certainly an “event” as the Council had even swept the streets in this unglamorous neighbourhood. So I suppressed my principled reservations and went to take a look. Now, like Scrapper, I’m all in favour of the sport but have misgivings about a lot of the other stuff that’s going on. As we all know the Torch relay is no ancient Greek ritual but a practice invented for the Berlin Games of 1936, an event the Nazis used to showcase their achievements to the world. The Nazis were very good at this sort of thing. It would be facile to suggest those taking part in the Torch Relay were pro-Nazi. But, overall, the parade, lasting a good 20 minutes, was a distinctly hostile spectacle. In cocktail terms maybe 4 parts police, 1 part Corporations, and a dash of athletics – a single runner near the back, who’d probably paid for the privilege, and appearing late in the parade as if an afterthought. A terrorist threat to the Torch could be real enough, who knows? I suppose we must trust that the Torch needs such an impressive police guard, and be glad that they are very careful indeed to look after it. The torch relay looked like fascism to me. It did not make me feel good about the Olympics. But even in early morning there were people cheering and waving flags so it was popular, and mine was the minority view.

I don’t dispute that there are valid reasons to be concerned about policing matters in this country. On the corporatisation front, our esteemed Home Secretary’s plans to open more policing and prison services to private companies smells of fascism, certainly. But the police themselves are hostile to and angry at that prospect, and in common with all other public sector workers other than regime itself and its corporate donors and cosseted beneficiaries, are up in arms about jobs, pay, pensions, and the insidious process the politicians call “reform.” (This word could do with re-definition.) Meanwhile, and specifically with regard to the Metropolitan Police, the Leveson Enquiry continues to cast light on the corruptible nexus between political leaders, the right-wing media, and the police. The cases of Daniel Morgan, Stephen Lawrence, and Ian Tomlinson are amongst a number of open wounds for the Met’s credibility. Of course there are also the important issues surrounding the policing of protest. SchNews will know about those.

In the real world, at our current stage of ethical development, we need police. There are bad people out there who do bad things, and it’s definitely necessary to stop some people from mixing freely with the general population. Be realistic: there are accidents, horrible crimes, acts of terrorism, tragic events. Policing is a tough job, and stressful, who else should deal with this stuff? We should not be surprised that the police defend the rights of property and companies, of those who produce wealth and provide jobs. Neither should we be surprised that from their perspective, more sweeping powers would make their task easier. Would SchNews suggest instead a force of ordinary citizens as right-on vigilantes in some ‘Big Society’ dystopia? Or, people more to their liking doing much the same service, in a similar structure, and vulnerable to the same institutional and cultural problems as the current police? If you have an ideological objection to capitalism or the government or the law or whatever, fine. Don’t confuse that with a justification for hating every individual police officer. Don’t be stupid. Really – and I admittedly bear fewer grudges against the police, based on personal experience, than some – any opportunity for constructive dialogue in any media should be used to persuade them of the justice of your cause, and to display humanity and respect. Are those not the values you stand for?

But we’re being self-indulgent building this argument that the police are a bunch of fascists, and serve a fascist system. We are letting fascism off the hook. To really “get” fascism we have to see it on an emotional level, the vast number of its adherents could never be accused of thinking too hard. We see this in the EDL. The ‘original’ fascists in Italy and Germany and elsewhere had some sort of excuse, as they were veterans of the Great War of 1914-18 and many were quite frankly unhinged by the things they had experienced. In the modern parlance many had PTSD. Suffering in defeat, as the Germans did, and believing the defeat and the chaotic aftermath to have been born of conspiracy was particularly traumatising. The root of fascism is a mess of boiling fears and hatreds, an urge to destroy. There was hatred of communists, obviously. Also hatred of socialists, anarchists, liberals, free-thinkers, eccentrics, homosexuals, feminists, protesters, the workshy, the poor, the weak, smart-alecs, non-conformists, uncooperative priests, foreigners, and anybody they took a dislike to, even each other. They would certainly hate SchNews and work to destroy the hive. Getting beaten up – in Italy perhaps they would have made you drink castor oil and stab you playfully in the backside – would be the very least you could hope for. If Sussex Police really were fascist this is what they would be doing. If SchNews has evidence of this, publish it.

But the swastika is not actually a symbol of fascism. The Nazis shared the superficial characteristics of fascism, certainly, but they were actually something different, and far worse. Jo Makepeace takes her cues on the Nazis and their meaning these days from ‘Allo ‘Allo and from Downfall spoofs. I’m no fan of the former, though clearly many have differed, but for a while the Downfall spoofs could be funny. “Every joke is a tiny revolution,” as Orwell said, and in telling good jokes about difficult topics we are asserting our freedom, and examining assumptions that need to be tested. I’m not above a snicker at Herr Flick or a titter at Bruno Ganz ranting about the football dressed as a late-period bunker-bound Hitler. But neither of these are actually about Nazism, they’re about the war, and in losing the war the Nazis become ridiculous, mad, defeated, no longer a threat, denatured, emasculated, pathetic, a joke. This image does not describe what the Nazis actually were. It’s more about us.

We British are obsessed with the Second World War. The point of “cultural saturation” was reached long ago, before my time. We have to keep on reminding ourselves that we won. 1940 is the British national foundation myth: the Dunkirk spirit, Churchill, standing against Hitler alone though massively outgunned, Spitfires and Hurricanes the blitz and all that. We should indeed be proud of the stand we took in 1940 and our broader contribution to victory, and what it hopefully says about us. Hitler could not believe we would be so stupid as to risk our Empire, suffer austerity and terror bombing from the air, maybe end up a bankrupted satellite state of the USA if we survived at all. Hitler was right about something then, but he was wrong to believe the UK would make the sensible play and fold. He saw no pressing need to invade Britain, though for obvious reasons he was keen for us to believe he would. Beginning new conflicts against the USSR and the USA in 1941 without first neutralising our little stepping-stone on the edge of Europe was a catastrophic strategic error. Hitler was wrong about Britain because he, like Nazism, was blind to morality and incapable of ethical judgment.

There does come a point when all this forced British jocularity about the Nazis hits the wrong note, causing offence to those who do not share our smug view of the war, and becomes morbid. The villagers of Haworth must still be scratching their heads at why members of a German delegation from their twin town burst into tears upon sight of some clown prancing about in an SS uniform. No doubt they’re still chortling down at the Golf Club. Obviously there is a long history now of the misappropriation of more specifically Nazi symbols, like the fine Hugo Boss tailoring of the SS uniform (which was certainly a selling-point for aspirant SS at the time). The Nazis did look kind of cool by the standards of 1930s paramilitary couture. There is certain brand of Russian neo-Nazi who in their ignorance forgets that Hitler tried to wipe out the people of that land, and all sorts of nutters in the USA of course, but let’s restrict ourselves here to stupid British people. We all laughed at Prince Harry’s notorious Nazi fancy dress incident. We’re not laughing with Harry, or because the Nazis are amusing these days, are we? We’re laughing at Harry because of his lack of knowledge and awareness, and what he may be unconsciously revealing about the values of his class and his family. Edward VIII’s sorry little clique were not the only Windsors enamoured of Hitlerian order and dynamism before 1940. What did those communists and those Jews matter anyway?

Sid Vicious Wears Nazi Swastika in Jewish Quarter in Paris

Sid Vicious

If these incidents provoke ironic detachment, what of Aidan Burley MP (Conservative, obviously), and that unfortunate stag party? There are laws about this sort of thing in France, it’s not such a triviality over there. And what peculiar company Mr Burley keeps. Company Jo Makepeace might find convivial, perhaps, as they too would have it that Nazism and its symbols are trivial these days, or irresistibly cool? Or a punk statement of irreverence? I hope you’re not going to tell me it was cool for Sid Vicious to stumble around the Jewish quarter of Paris sporting a swastika t-shirt? There was nothing cool about Sid, actually. He was a derelict heroin addict, he used to attack people in nightclubs with a bicycle chain, couldn’t play the bass, was culpable – along with the idiotic management who put him in the band and egged him on – for the swift derailment of one of the greatest English rock’n’roll bands. Worse, Sid was responsible also for the death of his girlfriend, most probably, and his own demise at the tender age of 21. He tarnished the punk movement with violence, heroin, racism and neo-Nazism. Not cool, but at least Sid had the integrity to preserve the association of the swastika with death. Make no mistake, the Nazis brought death in unimaginable quantities.

Like our humour, British myths about the war don’t always translate too well. At root, we were white people from the north, Nordics with a strong Saxon strain, not a priority in the Nazi order of things. As a result we were fortunate to not experience Hitler’s war in the same way it was experienced on the Continent, and worst of all by the peoples then resident in Poland, Russia, the Baltic States, Ukraine, and ultimately Germany too. We did not suffer occupation and repression, armies fighting through our landscape, the horrors of forced labour, mass starvation, racial extermination (beyond the indefensible Channel Islands at any rate). Just compare the figures, brutally: the UK lost 0.94%, just under half a million, of its pre-war population; Belarus, to pick just one area of intense combat and lengthy occupation lost 25.3%, more than 2 millions. Then check the figures for the whole Soviet Union as was, for Poland, and Germany. The large majority of these deaths are civilians, people who did not always choose to fight but were unfortunate to be in the way as across Eastern Europe the Nazis made war against humanity itself, indiscriminately. Perhaps I should apologise for linking to the Daily Mail? But I make no apology for linking to Wikipedia. On controversial subjects like the Nazi crimes of WW2 it’s reliable, because (ahem) it is ‘policed’.

A single human death is a tragedy, a million a statistic” said Stalin, who knew quite a lot about this topic, as a prolific mass-murderer himself. We do not have the ability to process the truth of the destroyed human beings represented by these numbers, and we’ve heard it all before. Maybe we are lucky that we can’t feel this flood of human misery and tragedy as those who lived then did. We forget, too, that the truth of the war cannot be simply measured in deaths. There were refugees by the tens of millions, displaced people, traumatised people, people who fought and people who suffered, people who survived. We forget, too, that many of this generation remain alive. We forget that this is the living past. We seek respect for our own youthful preferences without a care for this dying generation’s memories, sacrifices, and struggles. We forget respect is a two way street. We would pretend that the rights of kids to assemble in Worthing are on a par with all this. What savage injustice.

The swastika is also a symbol of the most pernicious and destructive racism. Hitler’s radical Social Darwinism not only normalised war and conflict, but also established a racial hierarchy in which those adjudged inferior were not merely deprived of rights, but of the right to exist. The swastika is specifically anti-semitic, anti-Gypsy, and anti-Slav. This is reason enough to refrain from its careless use. During Hitler’s war the Nazis and their allies conducted a quite insane industrialised mass murder campaign against Europe’s Jews, wiping out between 6 and 8 million of them by means of starvation, forced labour, mass shootings, and the gas chamber. The legacy of this baleful tragedy lives on, it is a key motor of the most intractable and dangerous conflict in the world today, in Palestine. Without the Nazis, there would be no Israel. Every year thousands of young Israelis visit Auschwitz and they are told: “this is what happens when we don’t fight back.” It’s not so very long ago either that millions of Eastern Europeans lived under repressive communist regimes, as a direct result of Nazism. When you deploy the swastika you are directly insulting those who were destroyed, those whose families were destroyed, those who struggled to defeat this thing, and those whose lives were determined or blighted by the consequences of this destruction.

We can draw banal lessons from Nazism: be nice to minorities, be tolerant, don’t invade Poland. Or we can draw more disturbing warnings much more relevant to the now. You can go read Ian Kershaw and discover that as a result of a disorderly system of government, a lazy leader who did not deal in detail and spoke in visions, the abrogation of humane values, and problems on an ever-increasing scale, they were making a lot of it up as they went along; the lesser bods were “Working towards the Fuehrer.” It’s been a long time since Hans Mommsen identified a unique vector of “cumulative radicalism” in Nazism: the longer it lasted, the madder it got. From 1933 they murdered communists, socialists, trade unionists, people like SchNews; at this stage usually murder wasn’t necessary as a short spell in Dachau would often get the message across. After all the communists would have done the same. Nazism progressed to destroy Protestant sectarians, turbulent priests, some Jews; disobedient women were sterilised and died under the knife by the thousand. By 1939 German doctors were murdering disabled people in hospitals on their own initiative, more or less, finding their own little work-arounds to make life less bureaucratic. During the war itself the really big crimes occurred, and very large numbers of people made them happen. Go read Zygmunt Bauman on the role of a modern bureaucracy, not so different from our own, in this, and how responsibility was spread so thinly that nobody really had to feel guilty as an individual, and through a process of double-think could even claim a clear conscience or that they were just following orders. Or go look in the street at the Mercedes and BMWs and ponder the amorality of capitalism. How with barely a step-change these corporations went from dealing in mass murder and the machines of destruction back to making luxury cars for rich people.

SchNews should be standing against all this and not excusing, humorising, or normalising its symbolism. Even if you accept that it ever went away, this kind of sickness is on the way back. In Greece at the weekend the vote for Golden Dawn held up. It takes an economic crisis, an authoritarian mindset, a normalisation of violence, a scapegoating of immigrants and foreigners to set this ball rolling. Golden Dawn are not yet Nazis, though we can see their contempt for humanity in the behaviour of Ilias Kasidiaris in that well-publicised TV incident. We should be disturbed too, that Kasidiaris was not quickly arrested and that the police in Greece are playing, reportedly, a big part in their electoral success and legal impunity. We cannot say where Golden Dawn will go. We cannot be sure the same conditions that have brought them to the forefront of Greek politics will not, in time, happen here. We must be watchful. There can be no accommodation, no normalisation, no negotiation with the likes of Golden Dawn because we know where this road can lead. We should remember.

No kid in my class will get too hard a time for footwear or a hairstyle or even the odd expletive, if they treat me and their peers right. But if they draw a swastika on their exercise book I’m going to remind them what it means, and whether they understand what they’re doing. If they do, it’s a whole different set of problems for us all.

Ian Beck, Cardiff, June 2012
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From Scrapper Duncan: I’ve located a copy of the image used by the Worthing Freedom Campaign, which comprised of a Nazi Swastika superimposed on the Sussex Police Logo and included it in my previous post on this topic.

15 Responses to Guest Post by Ian Beck: If You’re Not Pissed Off You’re Not Paying Attention

  1. An interesting piece.
    A shame the point of it seems to have completely bypassed @Schnews. Their “hive mind” is busily conducting a poorly constructed,reactionary argument to the perceived attack on their “grassroots campaign”.
    Shall I be the first to point out that 1) being “grassroots” does not make any group immune to either flaws or criticism and 2) once upon a time, all political groups were “grassroots”. Including the Nazis.
    Shame both points have bypassed them quite spectacularly.

    • Scrapper Duncan

      Hello Wasp,

      It seems that you are referring to @SchNews’s twitter response this evening? Thought I’d mention that because not every reader of this post will be following their tweets.

  2. Apologies if this isn’t the tightest of essays – your guest post on Scrapper Duncan’s blog veers all over the shop so our riposte unfortunately has to follow suit.

    HAKENKREUZ

    Firstly SchNEWS is unequivocally anti-fascist. Not only by way of opinion but in fact and on the streets. http://www.schnews.org.uk/stories/Bangers-and-Fash/ and http://www.schnews.org.uk/stories/FASH,-BANG,-WALLOP/ .To suggest that we endorse fascism and Nazism, don’t take it seriously or would be happy hanging around in Nazi costume with a Tory M.P is stupid and offensive.

    We are equally worried by the rise of the Golden Dawn party in Greece, their collusion with the Greek police, the electoral gains of Marine Le Pen and Casa Pound in Italy. The new counter-jihad right in the U.K is not looking as healthy as it did eighteen months ago, but the fact that the EDL can put even 700 on the streets is alarming. They were putting nearly 3000 out last year but the resistance has slowly been building. One of the reasons the EDL is faltering is they have felt the need to declare war on the whole of the left. We have been part of that resistance.

    We are not the Worthing Freedom Campaign!So we haven’t thrown “that symbol around” or “deployed the swastika”.We said we didn’t think it was the cleverest of leaflets, but that’s as far as we’re going to go.

    Opinions don’t have to backed up by actions but they are more convincing when they are. What does Ian Bec do to resist fascism? Other than try to run down anti-fascist publications who support people trying to resist draconian police powers.

  3. We’re not after answers or an activist C.V but suggest that his efforts might be better spent with the Anti Fascist Network or Unite Against Fascism

    Can we re-iterate – the swastika appeared, in a satirical context, on one leaflet and possibly the website of an organisation that SchNEWS supports but does not (of course) control for a brief period of time – we are being condemned for not condemning – as if our word carried the weight of law amongst the radical left population of the UK. What effect do you imagine us devoting editorial space to telling off people engaged in a otherwise completely legitimate campaign would have? Would it be well received, would it spur people on to greater efforts, or create the groundswell of support that might force Sussex Police into a review of their curfew policy? No – it wouldn’t as it would be nothing other than another piece of internecine leftist sniping.

    Would SchNEWS condemnation of a leaflet’s use of the Swastika possibly lead to a much-needed society-wide re-appraisal of just how evil the Nazis were? No, of course it wouldn’t.

    I suppose we shouldn’t complain about history lessons from a history teacher – it’s no doubt Ian’s default method of expression – but the assumption we need lectures on how horrific the Nazis were as if we’d never heard of Joachim Fest or William Shirer– that is patronising in the extreme. Ian talks about how the Worthing Freedom Campaign, ‘deploys the Swastika’ and goes on (by way of a petty side-swipe at the Pork-Bolter) to ruminate on what Hitler meant by ‘Freedom’. Actually we’re pretty sure that outside of the infamous gateway sign to Auschwitz, Freiheit was not a widely used…

    • Scrapper Duncan

      Happy to break my normal rules on commenting for SchNews on this post. For my part, I understand and accept the point about not wanting to devote space and time elsewhere to this issue. All the same though, there does seem to be a comprehension gap. Mainly, Ian is complaining about SchNews’ own tweets to him, one of which said the Swastika has become the symbol for all tyranny. SchNews could have replied to him and retreated from that position. I suspect that would have been enough. Come off it, SchNews, a single tweet wouldn’t break solidarity, would it?

  4. Freiheit was not a widely used concept in the Nazi lexicography – Rassen, Blut , Boden, Volk, Sieg etc etc were the basis of der Trommlers word-cloud. We of course stand to be corrected from Ian’s superior knowledge of the era. In any case to suggest that the Worthing Freedom campaign tacitly endorses the lebensraum seizure is flaky in the extreme.

    The point, tragically cut short by Scrapper’s word limiter, was that the Nazis are taught, in schools and popular culture, as if they were a wholly unique kind of evil, an ahistorical demonism that seizes control in Germany for twelve years and is then exorcised. In fact mass murder in the pursuit of material gain is a regrettably common tendency in human affairs. In a way NSDAP are a safe, even nationalistic, subject for U.K schoolchildren to study, a struggle in which we are clearly the goodies – the fact that white racial supremacy, eugenics and imperial ambitions were common currency in all European societies during the early twentieth century is glossed over. Winston Churchill advocated the use of tear gas against the untermenschen of the Arab tribes. More interesting topics might be colonialism, Indian independence and the partition, the conflict in Indo-China in the 60s and 70s, – but funnily enough they’re not on the national curriculum.

    The danger is that those organisations that we might recognise as being fascist or having fascist tendencies such as the English Defence League explicitly set themselves against the Nazis. The EDL in one early publicity stunt publicly burned a swastika flag. By explicitly divorcing themselves from the symbols of fascism they are able to publicly push a similar ideology. By…

  5. By explicitly divorcing themselves from the symbols of fascism they are able to publicly push a similar ideology. By concentrating on one manifestation of this evil and fetishising its symbols instead on pointing out that violent tribalism lurks perpetually close to the surface in all cultures we may have made their task easier. We should heed the words of Mark Twain “History does not repeat itself– but it does rhyme”

    P.S Sid Vicious was a prick – that is a truth universally acknowledged.

    THE COPS

    We’re very glad that you’ve had such positive experiences with the police – we haven’t and neither have our mates, perhaps we’ve just been unlucky. No, they’re not the Gestapo or the Stasi, but they did willingly co-operate in the smashing of the miners and later the destruction of the traveller convoys. Despite your assertion, the authoritarian tendencies of government didn’t start with New Labour.

    More recently of course the cops also beat a man to death in a demonstration against the G20 and as an institution tried their best to cover it up. Have you listened to Darcus Howe’s take on last year’s riots? Tomlinson’s death was an accident waiting to happen– many of us have been at the receiving end of similar treatment and observed the glee of those allowed to use violence without fear of repercussion. Had it not been for the emergence of a small slice of video footage Tomlinson’s death would have been brushed under the carpet like so many others. As well as the odd truncheon bruising we have also been been ‘friends’ with men and women who it transpired were paid to live among us and report on our actions to the state. We have been filmed,…

  6. We have been filmed, followed, harassed, arrested and had evidence fabricated against us. So, no we’re not friends of the police and we suggest that if Ian moved from his position of privilege then neither would he be.

    • Scrapper Duncan

      Thanks from me taking the time to respond. I posted a reply further up, making a small point. I’m bound to say that I got to know Ian at University in mid-Wales. In the late 1980s the police forces of Wales were said to be the most “inefficient” in the country (according to official data) and also the most popular (according to opinion polls). I’m aware of some of Ian’s other experiences but that’s not for me to discuss. It’s been a while since I heard a teacher described as privileged though I suppose he’s lucky to have a job. Not one I’d be willing to take on.

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  8. Hello Jo Makepeace. I’ve replied elsewhere to some of what is posted here, but there are a few points that you don’t repeat on other threads that I’ll take the liberty of responding to here and now.

    1. What does Ian Beck do to resist fascism?
    I educate people – mostly young people – in Cardiff about it, and I’m lucky enough – privileged, even, on a good day – to derive an income from that and other related activities. I seem to have drifted into calling people out who mess about with Nazi symbolism lately, you’re not the first, though you have resisted more determinedly than my previous targets. Neither is the entirety of my rumination here directed at you. But you did inspire it, so thanks. Admittedly it’s a bit long and maybe self-indulgent.

    2. Yes, I’m a history teacher, and felt you (and the Worthing Freedom Campaigners) would benefit from a lesson. If it was patronising then see that as my reaction to being offended by your refusal to take a clear position on WFC’s use of the Nazi swastika (but that issue is dealt with elsewhere). There’s no purpose in my repeating what I say in the article above, but you are right to suspect that “freiheit” was not so important to Hitler and that he didn’t talk about it an awful lot.

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  9. I should have used a footnote to explain the paragraph that discusses the Hitlerian concept of freedom, to save you the bother of consulting wordclouds or whatever. I was thinking specifically of Hitler’s first speech after his appointment as Chancellor in late January 1933, known as the “Appeal to the German People,” in which he advocates a number of dishonest tactical positions in order to win over God-fearing conservative middle-Germany but claims his objective is “the restoration of freedom to our nation.” You can find a translation of this speech here: http://www.humanitas-international.org/showcase/chronography/speeches/1933-02-01.html

    3. William Shirer’s on-the-spot reportage will always be valuable but his conclusions about Nazism are limited. Joachim Fest is similarly old hat. There has been tremendous movement in the historiography of Nazi Germany and the Holocaust (less so with regard to the war though I stand by the points I make above about the British perspective on this) since the fall of the Berlin Wall and then Eastern European communism around 1988-92. I’d suggest Ian Kershaw on Hitler, Christopher Browning on the Holocaust (especially “Ordinary Men”), Robert Gellately on the Gestapo and Goetz Aly on the popularity of the regime (which was not much talked about in the immediate aftermath and Cold War.) An accessible summary of much of this can be found in Laurence Rees, The Nazis: A Warning From History (BBC, 1996). The whole 5 hour TV series is on YouTube and it’s great stuff (I borrowed freely from Episode 2 in particular above). Episode 1 starts here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPYoEGrFEkA&feature=topics

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  10. 4. You contend that “the Nazis are taught, in schools and popular culture, as if they were a wholly unique kind of evil, an ahistorical demonism that seizes control in Germany for twelve years and is then exorcised.” I disagree, though I am familiar with this interpretation, which stems from Elie Wiesel’s spiritual reaction to Auschwitz (“Night”). This interpretation is more likely to be propagated in RE lessons, or by right-wing historians (Goldhagen, for instance) who, by denying that Nazism is explicable hope to place it ‘beyond history’ and thus also place Israel’s behaviour in recent decades also in a special category, beyond criticism. No doubt there are some shady operators out there, but I’m not responsible for them. It boils down to a dry discussion about historical uniqueness. I would say all historical phenomena are unique, but none are ‘beyond history.’ In the immediate aftermath of WW2 Nazism was not exorcised, in fact it was glossed over on this side of the iron curtain as we needed to make friends with the West Germans pronto to resist Communism and the huge Red Army. Consequently, many major and minor war criminals escaped justice until the 1960s and beyond. “Totalitarianism Theory” was fashionable in the early 1950s and afterwards as a way of conflating Nazism with Stalinism and hence to justify the Cold War and absence of a peaceful settlement after 1945.

    5. Studying Nazism is not necessarily (British) nationalistic. Most exam syllabuses focus on the 1930s, the era of appeasement and sympathy with Hitler’s authoritarian anti-communism by many on the British right (including the Daily Mail). This is not so flattering to us Brits…

  11. … and neither are Churchill’s advocacy of mass sterilisation of the lumpenproletariat in the 1920s, or the general acceptance of eugenics by the scientists of that era. I’ve said enough about the war already, but may be worth repeating that the British blood-price was comparatively small to that paid by other nations.

    6. You’re wrong about the National Curriculum: all the topics you suggest can be taught within it. The domination of History exam courses by the Nazis (which is certainly an issue) is the responsibility of the exam boards, as the NC for History lasts only until 14. History is very big, there’s a limited time allotted for it in schools (many schools have abolished history in recent years), and the tolearnce of younger children for difficult concepts is limited. Many schools, under pressure to get results, reason that its best to teach a limited range of topics to make things easier for their students. I don’t think this is right, but it happens as a result of political pressures. I do think however that the Germany of the 1930s was not such a different or alien culture to our own (less so than post-WW2 Indochina for instance), that this stuff still has great resonance and interest, and that everybody needs to know about it.

    7. I’m pleased we agree on Sid Vicious.

    8. I’m not getting into my personal historical dealings with the police on here, except to say that they haven’t all been positive, and that my advice on how to deal with them is based on personal rather than professional experience. I do make it clear – I hope – above that incidents such as the killing of Ian Tomlinson are disturbing in the extreme.

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